Monday, January 26, 2015

Tips with Paula Stokes, author of The Art of Lainey and Liars, INC: How to be a great beta reader and a HUGE giveaway!

Hey, everyone! I’m so excited to host this next blog post with my wonderful author friend Paula Stokes! We’ll be discussing how to be a great beta partner and some dos and don’ts to help make it a success!

Paula: There’s a lot to being a writer besides writing. One of the things I spend a lot of time on is beta reading for other writers. You don’t have to do this, if you don’t want. I know a few writers who never show their manuscripts to anyone before their agent sees them, but I’ve always felt that feedback from a few trusted colleagues helped raise the level of my work. You might think the best beta-readers are editors or published authors, but this isn’t necessarily the case. Some of my most valuable feedback comes from my unpublished beta readers, including the critiques I get from Christina. I hope my feedback on her work is equally helpful. Today we’re both sharing our tips on how to be a great beta—both as a reader and recipient.

Tips for giving feedback:

Paula: Highlight both things that are working well and potential problems. I know stopping to make a comment like “Oooh, nice metaphor!” takes time, but everyone needs a little positive feedback. If your comments are 99% negative, even if they’re really insightful, you’re bound to discourage your partner from revising the manuscript. I’ve worked with all skill levels at Manuscript Critique Services and I’ve always found plenty of things to compliment. If you seriously can’t find anything nice to say, having a beta-partner might not be for you.

Christina: This is a great tip. I’ve definitely been on both the giving and receiving sides of this. I remember one of my first beta reads. I worked on the novel for 15 or so hours and thought I did such a great job, literally patting myself on the back. When the author responded back, I expected him to be so grateful for the hard work I put into his manuscript. Instead, what I received was “Ouch. I guess I should be careful what I ask for.” At the time, I was so offended. Here, I had offered a lot of great suggestions, and he just chalked it up to me being mean. When I looked back later at my comments, however, I realized I should have pointed out more of the positives of his work too. There were a lot of great things about his story, but it’s easy to just gloss over those and only point out the problems. Receiving critique feels so personal because your book is purely your creation, so you have to remember that authors are human and need encouragement for what they do right. After all, if you don’t point the good out, they may not repeat what they did right the first time and even worse, try to correct what is already good.

That said, as a beta reader, don’t be scared to give your opinion. A dear friend of mine once said that if all a beta reader does is pat you on the head and say what a good job you are doing, you should never use that person again. A beta reader is someone who helps you push your boundaries and makes you feel uncomfortable with your manuscript—in a good way. It makes you think beyond yourself and put yourself into the mind of the reader. They will give you invaluable comments that you can’t see yourself because you are too close to the story. So remember that as you are giving critique. Your opinion is important.

Paula: Tailor your critique. The goal is to push your partner to improve his/her writing craft with each revision, not necessarily to perfect the manuscript or elevate it to a level where it’s ready to be sent out to agents. You don’t have to be at the same place in your publication journey as your partner, but you do need to recognize approximately where he/she is at. If you took me out to help me learn to play tennis and I’d never held a racquet before, you wouldn’t start by teaching me a topsin serve, right? You’d start by showing me the basics. Don’t obsess about high-level minutia with someone who’s not ready to tackle it yet.

Christina: What a great thought. I guess I’ve mostly beta read for books that were on the road to publication. I have worked with some stories at the beginning of the process, and that was really fun. It’s more of a brainstorming session and when done right, it can be such a great process of discovery. At that point, the prettiness of the prose doesn’t matter, like Paula said. You just want to know where the story is going.

Something that Paula and I have talked about in the past has been really helpful to me as a beta reader. Ask the author what they want to get out of the critique. This will help you tailor your critique. Some authors want every single detail—pick out all of the mistakes, typos, badly phrased sentences. Others just want a big picture read. Still others have very specific questions that they want you to think about before you dive in—such as, does this character come off a certain way? Does the epilogue make sense? Did the point of view work for you? If you have these in your head as you read or even after you read, it can help the author get what they want out of your critique, which is ultimately the whole point.

Paula: Learn to differentiate between what’s not working and what you just don’t like. This one can be tough because most people think that others like the same things they like. So if I dislike your plot twist or unreliable narrator or epilogue where Harry Potter gets gray-haired and boring (OMG I HATE THAT EPILOGUE) then it’s a problem that needs to be fixed, right? No. Apparently plenty of people really liked that epilogue. Sometimes your dislikes are just about you.

Christina: Exactly. There are certain structural issues that every author should at least think about—such as, you should probably put an inciting event in the first 20% of the book. However, there are other “triggers” for you that may just be personal preference. I don’t really enjoy suicide books. My sister hates any book that has really old people (such as super old vampires) dating 16 year old girls. But these are personal opinions. By the way, I totally hated the epilogue of HP too. I will restrain from ranting about it :P

Figure out how to clearly get your ideas across to the author. Try to keep in mind 3-4 big things you’d like them to know—critiques can quickly dissolve into overload. I like to structure my critiques as an editor would. I write a 1-2 page cover letter that goes over the big ideas that I think are most important to deal with—I try to include things that I really loved about the book as well as big problems that I had with the manuscript and why. I also like to ask probing questions that may push the manuscript further. In addition to this, I also offer in line critique if the author wants. Here, I’ll use track changes and add comments in the margins.

Paula: Don’t force your suggestions on your partners. I used to struggle with this one too because I sometimes feel really strongly about things. But if you mention something once and read a subsequent draft where your beta-partner has opted not to address one of your points, let it go. You’re not the boss of their book. Being pushy might mean they don’t feel comfortable sharing future work and good beta-readers are worth their weight in gold.

Christina: I also feel strongly about things, but honestly, the most important thing is that the author at least thinks about what you’ve said. If you’ve been heard, truly heard, then your job is done. Anticipate that less than 50% of your comments will be incorporated. Even that amount is really huge. It’s nothing personal, just as your comments to their work weren’t personal. Always remember it’s not your book, it’s theirs, and they have the ultimate decision making in the end.

Tips for receiving feedback:

Christina: My first tip, one that I didn’t follow myself to my chagrin, is to not bug the beta reader constantly after sending them the manuscript. Meaning, don’t nag them to read your book. You are excited to share your work, but these people are busy and have a million other things to read and write. They are doing you a huge favor. Give them the time without the pressure of you asking, “Did you read it? Did you read it?” If you are under a time pressure from a publishing company or editor or deadline, you can say that upfront. That way, beta readers won’t agree to read your manuscript unless they have the time to do it before your deadline. Plus, if they take forever (more than a month unless they update you) or never read it, you shouldn’t use them again as a beta reader anyway.

Paula: My number one tip is always to utilize a cooling-off period before responding to a critique or making decisions about a manuscript. Read the feedback. Then do something else for a couple of days. When Christina gave me input on LIARS, INC., it had been beta-read about seven times and gone through two rounds of edits with HarperTeen. I was kind of expecting an email full of praise. (*sigh* Yep, sometimes I’m that girl.) So when she had three or four suggestions (while at the same time saying it was a 4-star read for her as is) my brain immediately did something like:

Why doesn’t Christina like my book? I tried so hard and still she found these problems. Why is she so picky? I bet no one else would care about these things. What if it’s really a 2 star read for her and she’s just being nice? What if it’s a terrible book? I’m already in ARCs. Making these changes will be hard. But wait, I don’t even know if I need these changes…

It’s easy to let your emotions overwhelm your rationale brain when someone gives you critical feedback, no matter how kindly. So I didn’t do anything for a couple of days, but I couldn’t stop thinking about Christina’s suggestions. Not only did I decide she was right about all of them, I realized I could easily address her issues with a couple of added sentences here or there. And my book is better off for it. And because I didn’t send her a wailing emotional email, she (hopefully) doesn’t think I’m crazy and will continue to offer her expert advice.

Christina: LOL! I still tease Paula about this. It’s especially funny because the fact that I had no more than 3-4 comments shows how much I liked it already. But Paula is a perfectionist, so I wasn’t too surprised! I totally agree with her tip. I would even suggest if you have time and aren’t on a pressing deadline, especially if this is the first critique on your book, take a break for a few months before diving back into revisions. Write something else or work on a new project. If you are too close to the book, it’s very hard to be objective.

I would add, get several opinions from people you trust on your manuscript, but not too many. You need more than just one person reading it, but you also don’t want 20 people reading it—it quickly gets overwhelming. If you think receiving feedback is tough from one person, think about how crazy feedback is from 20 different people with different opinions. “But the last five readers liked that character. Why does this person hate him?”

Paula: Be receptive and open-minded, but in the end, trust your gut. Before I had an agent, I once redid the first page of a manuscript for a first-page conference critique. I sent this revised page to three trusted betas, and all of them responded that they liked the old version better. But me, I liked the new version—I loved it, in fact. I submitted my new version at the Oregon Coast Children’s Book Writers Workshop in 2010 and the entire room of people burst into applause at the end of the reading. Jennifer Laughran made a point of saying I should query her. I did, and even though she rejected that book, she took me on with my next manuscript, THE ART OF LAINEY.

Christina: I completely agree.

My last tip is related: just take a deep breath when you look through your critique, and remember, ultimately, this is your story. Going back to some of the previous points in this post, just remember that you don’t need to change everything your beta reader suggests. Sometimes they’re wrong. Their job is mostly to make you think, not for them to rewrite the story for you.  This is your story, and you need to remember that the story begins and ends with you, the author.


Paula: Because it wouldn’t be me if there wasn’t a giveaway, right? Enter the Rafflecopter below for a chance to win a finished copy of either LIARS, INC.  or THE ART OF LAINEY. Christina has expertly beta-read both of them, so really, you can’t go wrong ;-)
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About Paula:
Paula Stokes writes stories about flawed characters with good hearts who sometimes make bad decisions. When she's not writing, she's kayaking, hiking, reading, or seeking out new adventures in faraway lands. Paula is the author of THE ART OF LAINEY, INFINITE REPEAT, LIARS INC., and several other forthcoming YA novels. She loves interacting with readers. Find her online at or on twitter as @pstokesbooks.

About Liars, Inc.:
It all starts with one little lie…
Liars, Inc.
Max Cantrell has never been a big fan of the truth, so when the opportunity arises to sell lies to his classmates, it sounds like a good way to make a little money and liven up a boring senior year. With the help of his friends Preston and Parvati, Max starts a business providing forged permission slips and cover stories for the students of Vista Palisades High. Liars, Inc. they call it. Suddenly everybody needs something and the cash starts pouring in. Who knew lying could be so lucrative?

When Preston wants his own cover story to go visit a girl he met online, Max doesn’t think twice about hooking him up. Until Preston never comes home. Then the evidence starts to pile up—terrifying clues that lead the cops to Preston’s body. Terrifying clues that point to Max as the murderer.

Can Max find the real killer before he goes to prison for a crime he didn’t commit? In a book that Kirkus Reviews called “Captivating to the very end,” Paula Stokes starts with one single white lie and weaves a twisted tale that will have readers guessing until the explosive final chapters.

16068910About The Art of Lainey:
Soccer star Lainey Mitchell is gearing up to spend an epic summer with her amazing boyfriend, Jason, when he suddenly breaks up with her—no reasons, no warning, and in public no less! Lainey is more than crushed, but with help from her friend Bianca, she resolves to do whatever it takes to get Jason back.
And that’s when the girls stumble across a copy of The Art of War. With just one glance, they're sure they can use the book to lure Jason back into Lainey’s arms. So Lainey channels her inner warlord, recruiting spies to gather intel and persuading her coworker Micah to pose as her new boyfriend to make Jason jealous. After a few "dates", it looks like her plan is going to work!  But now her relationship with Micah is starting to feel like more than just a game.

What's a girl to do when what she wants is totally different from what she needs? How do you figure out the person you're meant to be with, if you're still figuring out the person you're meant to be? 

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  1. Oh, I love the part about asking people what they're looking for in a critique. I completely forgot about that but it's so true! There's nothing worse than asking someone to give you broad strokes thoughts on if a plot feels plausible and getting your work back with each individual sentence reworded and picked apart.

    Thanks for doing this post with me and hosting my giveaway, C. I miss you <3

  2. I love this interview. The topic is writer related, so it's especially helpful to me. I agree with the giving positive feedback as well as negative. I'm currently going through my agent's edits, and it brightens my day when she adds positive little comments about what she loves amongst the red pedded edits. I also agree with finding a critique partner who offers actual criticism. I WANT to know what you hated and what didn't work because that will ultimately make the book the best it can be.

    On another note, Liars, Inc. is my number one Absolutely Dying to Read for 2015. I really, really really would LOVE to win this arc:)

  3. Great tips! Makes me want to become a beta reader for someone. I'll answer both Q's.

    I'm no beta but a reviewer. When authors ask for an honest review from me, I give it 100%. I'm not a cruel reviewer. I gave my honest opinion to one about a year ago and the author emailed me a hateful reply. With a few choice words and something along the lines of, "take the review down because it doesn't help sell the book". I was speechless. I only pointed out my likes (which was one aspect) and dislikes (many)in a very nice way. That hurt my feelings so bad. And to make matters worse, they then proceeded to tell me that they should never have asked a black girl to read their work since "black" people don't know what a good book entails. That really sucked and I didn't reply back or delete my review. Somehow, magically, my review was removed from Amazon within 2 weeks. *shrugs*

    I'd like to read Liars Inc if I win. Love that cover.

    1. I am sorry that happened to you. That all sounds horrible. Please know most authors are not like that. I'm very grateful for all my reviews. I know they take time away from other things you could be doing.

  4. What a fantastic post! I'm never sure if I'll be a good beta reader because I'm usually more about gut feeling and overall feel and not usually very good at picking at things if I like the book well enough!

  5. Great post!
    I'm in the middle of betareading for the first time. This was really helpful!

  6. Excellent post with some wonderful tips, but I'd expect no less from you two! Thanks for sharing :)

  7. I am looking forward to Liars Inc and I'm becoming a budding fan of Paula Stokes

  8. When it comes to giving criticial feedback, feelings should be considered but honesty should be given. The person giving the feedback should organize their thoughts, decide precise points they want to give and then give them so the writer can truly help alter and improve the book/section. When it comes to people's actions, behavior, if it's harmful to others, speak up. But if they're being unique, don't stop them.

    I would much rather have Liars Inc because it is related to HTGAWM which is one of my new favorite shows. I haven't read many murder mysteries and a concept like this is original as far as I know and draws me in. I haven't been fortunate in winning giveaways thus far and I would really appreciate the chance. :) -Wesaun

  9. I would rather win Liars because I've heard that it's similar to the I Hunt Killers series, and it's one of my favorite series.

  10. I would choose Liars Inc because it is related to HTGAWM and somewhat PLL. I love that tagline! IT ALL STARTS WITH ONE LITTLE LIE! It starts out trivial and then gets blown out of proportion! SOOO EXCITING!

  11. I'd rather read Liars, Inc. because I've read The Art of Lainey. And I'll admit, I didn't think Liars, Inc. would be my cup of tea until Paula compared it to How to Get Away with Murder, which is one of my favorite shows.
    Thanks for the giveaway!

  12. I like the sandwich method (positive, negative, positive) because it give balanced feedback, and people are more likely to respond well to criticism if you let them know what is working. I also think you should write your thoughts, give it an hour, reread, and only send if it still sounds both professional and helpful.

  13. I would choose Liars Inc, just because it seems to be much more exciting. I would really need something with a bit of mystery! :)


  14. This post is really helpful as I am such a newbie at beta-reading. Thank you so much! :)

  15. I would choose Liars because I LOVED Lainey!!!

    And as a beta reader, I'd like the author to tell me exactly what kind of feedback she needs.

    thank you so very much :)

  16. Liars because I think it sounds a bit more interesting although I could be wrong.

  17. If i win, I would choose Liars, Inc :) I've read The Art of Lainey and it was honestly on the list of my top books of 2014.

  18. You really have to have a tough skin when writing. I'd choose Liars!

  19. Thanks for all your entries and comments :) I'm glad so many of you found this post helpful!

  20. I think I would read The Art of Lainey because I love reading young adult romances. The story sounds like a cute, fun, and genuine love story. Thank you so much for this amazing chance! :)

  21. I just started reviewing books a few months ago and I give an honest opinion when writing reviews if I like the book or if I didn't. If i win I would choose Liars, Inc because I don't have a copy and can't wait until I read it. I'm reading Art of Lainey right now and it's such a good book. Thank you so much for this amazing giveaway.

  22. I would choose Liars, Inc because I don't have a copy and can't wait until I read it. I'm currently reading The Art of Lainey and it's such a good book ! Thank you for this amazing giveaway.

  23. I would love to read Liars, Inc because it sounds like an amazing book.